THE sanction Stock Aitken Waterman is synonymous with immoderate of the champion popular tunes successful history, with 13 No1 singles and 40million records sold globally.
But present the powerhouse trio of Mike Stock, Matt Aitken and Pete Waterman person turned connected the modern euphony business — slamming 1 of the world’s astir promising young superstars.
Sabrina Carpenter — who spent a grounds 21 weeks astatine the apical of the singles illustration past twelvemonth — has recovered herself the target of their disdain implicit her skimpy outfits and flirty lyrics.
The hitmakers person adjacent suggested the Espresso vocalist is mounting backmost the question for women’s rights.
But they look to person forgotten that plentifulness of their acts flashed the soma to merchantability much singles . . .
In an exclusive interrogation with The Sun, Matt, 68, said: “Pop music, and peculiarly popular videos, person go a batch much sexualised than backmost successful the Eighties — overtly so, for amended oregon for worse.”
Pete, 78, continued: “And that is incredibly unusual fixed that women’s rights are truthful protected now.
‘Page Three girl’
“To spot Sabrina Carpenter dressed arsenic a small miss is rather offensive. She doesn’t request that.
“She’s got large endowment and yet the full of the industry, these girls travel retired successful arsenic small arsenic imaginable due to the fact that they cognize they’re driving young boys to their websites.
“So you go, bent on, we could ne'er person done that 30 years ago.
“We would person been killed if we’d person done fractional of what they bash now. Madonna was the lone idiosyncratic who ever got adjacent to that image.”
Agreeing with them, Mike, 73, said: “They’ve won each of their freedoms and their rights, women.
Sabrina Carpenter acceptable to instrumentality the Stage astatine BST London 2025
“They fought for everything they’ve got and present they’re throwing it away, is the mode I would look astatine it.”
Pete added: “It’s conscionable crazy. If you’re asking to beryllium respected, don’t travel connected successful a G-string.”
The stinging verdict of Sabrina continued arsenic they dismissed her intersexual lyrics arsenic “lazy.”
She has faced disapproval for songs specified arsenic Juno, successful which she mentions enactment positions, and Bed Chem, astir being compatible with idiosyncratic betwixt the sheets.
Mike explained: “I would ne'er effort and constitute a lyric that said thing circumstantial connected a intersexual level.
“You’d ever beryllium allegorical oregon allude to it somehow. So I don’t similar that. I deliberation it’s a atrocious amusement and it’s lazy. You’re going to drawback immoderate signifier of attraction by doing that.”
But the comments are astatine likelihood with their ain benignant of Eighties acts, which included a raft of pistillate favourites successful arsenic revealing outfits.
They capitalised connected glamour exemplary Sam Fox’s notoriety by turning her into a popular prima aft she made a sanction for herself arsenic a Page Three girl.
Their astir celebrated export, Kylie Minogue, has spent decades being celebrated for her euphony and her racy looks some connected and disconnected stage.
The trio besides wrote for Sinitta, who had suggestive lyrics successful respective of her songs and wore blistery pants and bandeau tops.
It’s conscionable crazy. If you’re asking to beryllium respected, don’t travel connected successful a G-string
Pete Waterman
And they produced euphony for Mandy Smith, who, astatine 13, was astatine the centre of contention implicit her narration with Rolling Stones prima Bill Wyman, 47. She had occurrence successful Europe but failed to ace the UK.
The euphony moguls spoke retired yesterday arsenic they unveiled a bluish plaque from the Southwark Heritage Association astatine Vine Yard Studios successful London, wherever they created countless popular anthems, including Band Aid II’s mentation of Do They Know It’s Christmas? successful 1989.
The 3 manufacture bigwigs besides helped signifier the dependable of artists specified arsenic Rick Astley, Bananarama and Jason Donovan.
Recalling however they utilized to instrumentality immense acts to the adjacent pub aft sessions successful the studio, Pete recalled: “We had Paul McCartney successful determination connected a Sunday nighttime singing Beatles songs and cipher batted an eyelid.
"The lone idiosyncratic that ever, ever, ever got a absorption successful the pub was Sam Fox.”
It is 4 decades this twelvemonth since SAW scored their archetypal No1 azygous with You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) by Dead Or Alive.
Following this and galore much successes, they judge the charts person mislaid meaning — and assertion the nationalist nary longer person a prime with music, contempt streaming services making millions much songs accessible.
Comparing the value of the charts to years gone by, Matt said: “I don’t deliberation it matters anymore. There’s nary flagship for it.
“There was Top of the Pops and everybody would cognize what the No1 grounds was. I get the charts each week sent to maine directly, truthful I benignant of cognize the titles, but I couldn’t wade done listening to it and there’s nary level for it.
“It’s each streamed euphony now, truthful it’s not similar getting excited to spell down to Woolworths and wage £2 for your single. That’s what radical utilized to do.”
Pete chipped in: “The happening is, the manufacture backmost then, erstwhile a No1 meant truthful much, this was astir the nationalist making it No1.
‘Trump volition shingle it up’
“The grounds manufacture didn’t similar that and the information that the nationalist had a choice. Let’s not kid ourselves — the nationalist bash not get a prime now.
“We’ve taken the nationalist wholly retired of the equation due to the fact that streaming is not radical buying it. It’s radical who mightiness perceive to 10 oregon 15 seconds due to the fact that it’s a service, it’s similar radio. And it’s ever been radio.
“People perceive to vigor successful a wholly antithetic mode than erstwhile they bought their single, went location and played it to decease 25 times earlier they went backmost a week aboriginal and bought different single.
"It was theirs, they owned it and they were passionate astir it.
To spot Sabrina Carpenter dressed arsenic a small miss is rather offensive. She doesn’t request that
“They work the sleeves, they knew the producers, they knew the opus and, wrong 20 minutes, they could sing the opus on with the track.
“Now they don’t attraction due to the fact that there’s nary ownership.”
And the trio reckon the deed songs they worked connected — including Rick Astley’s Never Gonna Give You Up, Kylie’s I Should Be So Lucky and Bananarama’s Venus — should beryllium considered adjacent much palmy successful today’s climate.
Pete said: “What I don’t recognize is that, erstwhile you look backmost to Rick Astley, for lawsuit — Never Gonna Give You Up — if you enactment retired erstwhile helium was No1 each astir the world, however galore radical indispensable person listened to him, and adhd that to what it would beryllium today, it’s unbelievable. You’re talking implicit a cardinal streams a week.
“We didn’t get paid for that. You lone got paid for what radical physically went retired and bought.”
Things could beryllium astir to change, though, and the trio judge Canadian rapper Drake, and US president Donald Trump, volition beryllium the ones to marque it happen.
Drake is suing his ain grounds statement Universal, claiming that they boosted his rap rival Kendrick Lamar’s diss track, Not Like Us, which Universal has denied.
And Pete believes the court lawsuit could beryllium important erstwhile it comes to yet revealing the power and power grounds labels could exert down the scenes — a signifier known arsenic payola.
He said: “There’s this large tribunal lawsuit that’s astir to spell connected successful America with Drake and this could alteration the grounds manufacture forever.
“Drake is accusing Universal of cheating and buying streams and influencers to marque Kendrick Lamar bigger than him — it’s a monolithic tribunal case.
“What it is doing is opening the pages connected what’s been going connected successful the grounds manufacture for implicit 50 years. But present it’s truthful blatant, due to the fact that you tin usage TikTok and influencers and it’s each payola.
“And here’s Drake, who’s really travel retired and said, ‘This is payola’.”
Mike continued: “I cognize Donald Trump is going to shingle it up, I cognize helium is. That volition beryllium good, I think.”
In 2023, Stock Aitken Waterman channelled their backmost catalogue of much than 100 Top 40 hits into a jukebox philharmonic called I Should Be So Lucky, which went connected a nationwide tour, and which they person further large plans for.
Mike explained: “The philharmonic is going to spell astir the world. It’s going to extremity up successful everyone’s municipality oregon metropolis astatine immoderate constituent oregon other.
“We’re successful the West End aboriginal this twelvemonth but we’re, astatine the contiguous time, tightening each the bolts up and getting different things sorted out.”
However, the authorities of the euphony manufacture means the trio are improbable to ever enactment unneurotic connected immoderate caller music. Mike said: “With Matt and Pete, we’ve not thought astir doing thing together, really.
“Nothing’s ever travel up and, similar Pete’s been saying, it’s a antithetic world. Financially I accidental we don’t privation to enactment ourselves connected the enactment anymore.”
SLATING SINGERS A NO-NO
PETE WATERMAN reckons TV is excessively woke for euphony world shows.
The manufacture mogul was a justice connected ITV singing contention Pop Idol from 2001 to 2003.
And helium said adept panels are nary longer allowed to springiness existent opinions – which is what viewers privation – successful lawsuit they wounded the feelings of wannabes.
Pete added: “If you can’t beryllium honest, you can’t person a world show, tin you?
“Television is nary longer honest. You’re told what you tin accidental and you’re told what you can’t say.
“And portion you’ve got that, you’re ne'er going to beryllium capable to accidental to somebody, ‘Sorry, find a antithetic career’, due to the fact that that is not permissible anymore.
“So you’ve taken distant wholly the instrumentality that made it work.
“All the mode backmost to shows backmost successful the Sixties, endowment shows, if you can’t criticise, past you person nary show.”
Pete volition marque a impermanent quality connected Simon Cowell’s upcoming Netflix world amusement The Midas Touch, which is hunting for the UK’s adjacent large boyband.
But helium revealed helium felt constricted during filming.
He said: “The Netflix happening is incredible. They’re truthful rigid astir what you tin accidental and what you can’t say. It’s pointless!
“People utilized to beryllium astatine location and say, ‘He can’t sing’, or, ‘She can’t sing’, but present you can’t accidental it, truthful what’s the point?
“We’ve got millions of experts present who marque fortunes telling america each the details astir your attraction span. And my statement is they astir apt don’t marque thing that anybody wants to bloody watch.
“If you’re not making bully things, don’t beryllium amazed if radical aren’t watching television.”