Democratic governors pressed on why Trump and Harris are neck-and-neck in 'blue wall' states: 'Razor-thin'

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ABC News' Martha Raddatz questioned 3 Democratic governors connected Sunday astir wherefore Democrats person mislaid crushed successful states that were erstwhile considered "guaranteed" victories for the Democratic candidate.

"Look astatine the polls. I mean, conscionable a mates of elections ago, this bluish partition was astir guaranteed for Democrats. I cognize you’ve seen enthusiasm. I cognize you’re moving hard, but the polls truly aren’t showing it. Who did the Democrats suffer implicit these years?" Raddatz asked. 

The ABC News big sat down with Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers to sermon the authorities of the predetermination successful their location states, which are seen arsenic must-win states for Harris. Trump won Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan successful 2016 and was the archetypal Republican statesmanlike campaigner to bash truthful since 1992. However, President Biden won the 3 states backmost successful 2020.

"I deliberation if you adjacent spell backmost 8 years, each 3 of our states went for Donald Trump, and past each 3 of america were elected and re-elected, and this is, I think, you don’t triumph a authorities similar Michigan by 11 points without a batch of radical coming over, Independents and Republicans, and that’s portion of our missive. As we person been to Wisconsin and Michigan, and present present successful Pennsylvania, there’s a spot astatine the array for everyone. We recognize that determination are Republicans retired determination who are lamenting that Donald Trump is their nominee. They’re not definite astir our agenda. We’re making a spot astatine the array for them. We are not penning anyone off," Whitmer replied. 

Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer and Tony Evers

ABC's Martha Raddatz pressed the 3 Blue Wall governors connected wherefore the contention was truthful adjacent successful their states. (Screenshot/ABC)

HARRIS AND TRUMP TRADE FIRE IN BATTLE FOR THE BLUE WALL STATES 

Raddatz pressed again, "It is razor-thin, and immoderate of the averages, they spot Trump making it."

"I cognize you’re saying you person religion successful these voters and they recognize what they saw successful Donald Trump years ago, but the polls conscionable aren’t showing it," Raddatz added.

Whitmer said she wasn't amazed by the adjacent polls and argued, "we're not scared."

"We’re determined to marque definite we bash everything successful our powerfulness to triumph this thing, and portion this is going to beryllium close, I would overmuch alternatively beryllium playing our manus than theirs. We’ve got a amended candidate. We’ve got receipts connected issues that substance to the American people, connected the economy, idiosyncratic rights, affordable housing, etc., and we’ve got a amended crushed game. We’re going to bash the work," Whitmer said.

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Vice President Kamala Harris

Democratic statesmanlike nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during a run rally astatine the Williams Arena astatine Minges Coliseum connected the field of East Carolina University connected October 13, 2024, successful Greenville, North Carolina.  (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Raddatz asked Evers astir wherefore voters mightiness inactive beryllium undecided successful this election.

"It is hard to judge that radical are inactive undecided astatine this point. They cognize who Donald Trump is. They cognize what helium has done. They saw the Biden administration, and galore of them are not blessed with it and tying Kamala Harris successful there. So is this an predetermination wherever it's not truthful overmuch successful this crushed crippled going aft the undecided but the unenthused?" Raddatz asked.

Evers said there's plentifulness of enthusiasm, and argued it did travel down to undecided voters. 

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"There are radical that frankly don’t travel this connected a regular basis. There’s radical that don’t travel the polls. There’s radical that conscionable don’t, you know, they spell to work. They got kids astatine home. They bash a bully occupation with their kids, and they get up the adjacent day. The polls look astatine a tiny number," Evers responded.

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