Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan in tense standoff over gun control and Gaza: 'That's disgusting'

Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan got into a tense standoff implicit an array of hot-button issues arsenic they shouted each different down connected a rooftop successful Saudi Arabia. 

The 2 journalists and erstwhile TV broadcasters met successful the Middle East federation this week to sermon topics including the warfare successful Gaza and whether the US should beryllium backing it, gun control and the bequest of Winston Churchill. 

On the Israel-Hamas war, Carlson condemned the Israeli government's bombardment of civilians for implicit a year, which Morgan questioned arsenic helium said specified bombing 'wasn't evil.' 

Carlson said: 'If you're intentionally sidesplitting civilians, you astir apt shouldn't bushed your thorax and brag astir it... possibly you tin marque the lawsuit that you had to bash it, but you should weep.' 

'Is it evil though?' Morgan responded, to which Carlson argued: 'To termination civilians connected purpose? I deliberation it is. Kids and children? Yeah.' 

Morgan said helium could spot determination being a 'moral right' to civilian deaths successful wartime, saying: 'If determination is simply a satellite warfare that threatens the full world, yes.' 

When Carlson called his presumption 'disgusting', helium walked backmost and said it could beryllium justified 'in a axenic antiaircraft action' arsenic the 2 journalists sparred implicit the conflict. 

'To intentionally termination noncombatants, women and children, I deliberation we tin accidental that's wrong,' helium concluded. 

The 2 journalists moved onto the contented of whether the US should proceed backing Israel's efforts against Hamas, aft erstwhile President Joe Biden sent astatine slightest $17.9 cardinal successful subject assistance since the October 7, 2023, violent attacks. 

After Carlson repeated his calls for the US to halt supplying assistance to Ukraine successful its struggle with Russia, Morgan questioned: 'Why bash you enactment Israel against Hamas? Why bash you enactment giving them billions of dollars?' 

'I don't,' Carlson snapped back. 

'I enactment Israel successful the consciousness that I truly similar Israel, I brought my household connected abrogation there... but (I enactment Israel) lone to the grade that it helps the United States.' 

Morgan claimed this was a hypocritical stance fixed his disapproval of assistance to Ukraine, saying his enactment simply 'depends connected which country'. 

'I don't spot a quality betwixt (Israel's bombing of Gaza) and what is happening successful Ukraine,' Morgan continued. 

'This is simply a agelong mode distant from America, determination is nary nonstop engagement with America oregon nary mainland involvement, and yet you deliberation it's close that America enactment Israel, but you don't deliberation it's close that America supports Ukraine.' 

Later successful their conversation, which ran for much than an hr and a fractional and was posted to X, the 2 men got into a heated speech connected the contented of weapon unit successful the US. 

Morgan, who has argued against the ownership of guns and has condemned America's schoolhouse shooting epidemic galore times, acknowledged that their statement was based successful 'cultural differences.' 

'In my country, everybody utilized to person a weapon successful the aged days, present precise fewer radical person guns, determination are incredibly choky restrictions, and the effect of that is that we person astir zero weapon crime,' helium said. 

'But the occupation we person is with knives. 

'So, I'm not saying for a infinitesimal the infinitesimal you get escaped of guns cipher gets killed, we person a weapon transgression occupation epidemic successful our country.' 

Carlson said London was suffering from a 'people problem' and said weapon crimes had surged successful the metropolis compared to the 1970s, saying 'the actions of the radical are wholly different, you person antithetic people.' 

Their wide-ranging speech besides turned to the bequest of Winston Churchill, with Morgan taking discourtesy to Carlson's statement that Churchill didn't bash capable successful World War Two. 

'People privation to archer maine Churchill’s an unthinkable guy. Really? Well, wherefore didn’t helium prevention Western civilization?' Carlson said. 

Morgan responded: 'He did prevention Western civilization! He defeated the Nazis.' 

'Well, I cognize helium helped decision the Nazis with his person Stalin,' Carlson said. 'I’m not defending the Nazis. I’m conscionable saying, wherever is Western civilization? What did helium preserve? Where is it? I don’t cognize wherever it is.' 

Morgan countered that Churchill died successful 1963, the twelvemonth helium was born, arsenic helium said the interaction of Churchill's decision of the Nazis was important astatine the time. 

However, Carlson argued wide migration had reshaped Western civilization beyond what Churchill saved decades ago. 

'But the question was like, Where’s the victory? I don’t understand. Like, everyone wants to outcry astatine you for not loving Churchill. Okay, well, amusement maine the triumph — nary it’s a theoretical victory. 

'He bushed Hitler. Great. I’m wholly for beating Hitler.'