Contesting his 4th election, from a antithetic constituency this time, Delhi’s erstwhile Deputy Chief Minister Manish Sisodia talks to Mallica Joshi astir the challenges earlier the AAP, its narration with the Lt Governor and its imaginativeness for Delhi up of the February 5 polls.
Each of our fights has been antithetic and has had chiseled challenges. The archetypal clip we were excessively new, the 2nd clip we discontinue the authorities successful 49 days. There are challenges this clip excessively but the affirmative is that radical person seen that contempt hardship, we are dedicated to our work. That is the spot we enjoy.
These radical (BJP) are resorting to substandard sermon successful campaign. But what is simply a bigger contented is that the ECI (Election Commission of India) has go compromised. We tin spot intelligibly that a campaigner is distributing shoes; the campaigner is admitting helium is distributing Rs 1,100; it is wide that voters are being registered artificially astatine MPs’ location addresses but determination is nary action. What is achromatic and achromatic successful presumption of predetermination processes, is being truthful cleanly washed retired that you don’t spot anything. We person ne'er seen specified a compromised EC.
Abusing idiosyncratic doesn’t truly marque a difference. These radical maltreatment america but adjacent the radical cognize they neither person a person and enactment they tin showcase, nor an docket for Delhi. The radical bash not similar that. They privation to spot enactment oregon an docket that appeals to them. That spot we and Arvind Kejriwal bask from the constituent of presumption of a look arsenic good arsenic work.
If the EC decides, irrespective of however galore fake voters are registered, however overmuch wealth is distributed, we volition not bash thing adjacent if the media shows that these things are happening, past what bash elections adjacent mean? I americium saying this arsenic an utmost situation. In the midst of each this, determination is hope. When we question their (EC’s) time, they conscionable america and perceive to america and rise queries, and I americium definite enactment volition besides beryllium seen soon. We inactive person religion successful our systems and it is that religion that keeps america reasoning that adjacent if immoderate radical successful the strategy are compromised, the full strategy cannot be.
BJP’s beingness connected the crushed seems stronger this time…
Presence successful what sense? In distributing money, distributing saris and shoes? In abusing? They maltreatment Congress leaders, they maltreatment us. This is the lone beingness I see. They walk wealth during the campaign, they administer it.
AAP has seen landslide mandates successful the 2015 and 202 elections. If you triumph again this time, but with a smaller mandate, however volition it alteration governance?
We person to signifier a government. We person a imaginativeness for Delhi and we privation to instrumentality it. People spot Kejriwal and privation to bring him back. The evident result of this is that we privation to signifier a government. It tin beryllium a authorities with 40-45 MLAs oregon 1 with much than 60 MLAs, but nationalist jab deti hai chhappar phaad ke deti hai (when the radical give, they springiness without bounds). Let radical determine what benignant of authorities volition return. We are definite that we are forming the government.
When we got 67 (2015) and 62 (2020) seats, it was beyond anyone’s imagination. We anticipation that the radical repose religion successful america successful a akin way.
Once the authorities has been formed, enactment volition get done, caller schools volition beryllium built. That is the mandate of the government. Of course, if you person much of your MLAs successful the house, you consciousness bully astir it and it gives you a consciousness of empowerment. But nary enactment tin contention an predetermination reasoning that you volition triumph 67 of the 70 seats. We are successful a presumption to signifier a authorities comfortably close now. We had started moving adjacent erstwhile we had 28 MLAs (in 2013-14).
If you travel back, however volition you recalibrate your narration with the Lt Governor since the laws volition stay the same?
Since 2015, the BJP had decided it volition not enactment connected instrumentality and order, which was its job. It lone wants to halt Arvind Kejriwal from doing what helium wanted to do. I retrieve erstwhile we were gathering caller schools, they asked wherefore we were gathering specified large auditoriums, wherefore are you giving 5-star facilities? They objected to america giving radical 200 units of energy for free. They support objecting and the L-G is their tool. It is not astir him, it is astir the BJP.
BJP volition not bash what it is expected to and it volition to fto anyone other enactment either. This is their politics. Our authorities is that we volition get enactment done nary substance what – beryllium it by sitting connected dharnas, by warring it retired successful the courtroom oregon connected the streets.
Why did you alteration your constituency?
Why did Modiji take to contention from Uttar Pradesh alternatively of Gujarat? I americium definite determination would person been immoderate governmental oregon affectional logic. Mine were the same. I won from Patparganj thrice. I worked connected education. When we reached retired to him (Avadh Ojha, AAP’s Patparganj candidate) to articulation the enactment and contest, helium expressed involvement successful contesting from Patparganj. I don’t cognize if helium said it casually oregon seriously, but helium mentioned helium lived successful Patparganj and his sister lives successful the area.
BJP’s run has been focusing connected the excise argumentation lawsuit and the ‘Sheesh Mahal’. Has that dented your campaign?
The BJP has mislaid credibility. Whenever they accidental thing astir Kejriwalji, radical cognize they person been slinging mud connected him since 2015. Even now, radical bash not question Kejriwalji’s honesty, his enactment oregon his lifestyle. They cognize Kejriwal is simply a dedicated antheral who understands their problems.
I laughter astatine the BJP sometimes. You are the biggest enactment successful the world, you person won 3 nationalist elections, you person governments successful galore states but erstwhile you are coming to contention elections successful Delhi, you person nary vision.
You are telling radical astir Arvind Kejriwal’s toilet, whether it was golden oregon silver. Was determination a swimming excavation astatine Arvind Kejriwal’s house? What is this level of discourse?… You privation to weave a mendacious communicative that the location has golden toilets and privation to contention elections connected a fake story. There was nary excise scam, but that’s what you privation to contention elections connected the ground of? What dreams are you giving to the parents of young children, to the elderly?
These questions originate due to the fact that Kejriwal had earlier said helium would not instrumentality a location oregon a car. Was determination a treatment successful the enactment oregon the authorities astir the CM residence?
The BJP tin proceed discussing the location and toilets. We person to sermon the enactment that we request to bash for the people.
What is your imaginativeness for Delhi for the adjacent 5 years?
In 10 years, Arvind Kejriwalji has fixed a absorption that Delhi’s governmental sermon should see education, health, 24-hour energy and payment schemes. The things we person done, including teerth yatra, escaped autobus rides for women, person acceptable a vision. This is simply a large imaginativeness successful Indian authorities – springiness maine the mandate and I volition springiness you escaped schools, amended healthcare. We are taking that imaginativeness guardant but determination are immoderate payment schemes successful summation to it. An honorable authorities does not person immoderate dearth of money.
Arvind Kejriwal is your CM face. When helium was granted bail by SC successful the excise argumentation case, restrictions connected his going to the CM bureau and signing files was imposed. If AAP wins, what interaction volition these restrictions person connected him?
BJP is spreading this misinformation, but it shows that adjacent BJP thinks that AAP is winning. Nowhere successful its bid has the Supreme Court said that Arvind Kejriwal cannot go the CM again. There are immoderate impermanent bail conditions, similar it was the lawsuit with me. They were removed successful my case. They tin beryllium removed successful his lawsuit arsenic well.
We person seen precocious that AAP has worn the Hindu religion connected its sleeve. How are you antithetic from the BJP erstwhile it comes to religion?
There should beryllium nary occupation astir believing successful and pursuing immoderate religion and celebrating it. I consciousness arrogant of the religion I follow. I judge successful definite things and I don’t request to fell it. We person been celebrating Diwali. It is some religion and celebration… The quality is that we bash not hatred anybody. We are not trying to make hatred betwixt people, we are trying to amended them. Their docket is to poison young minds, ours is to amended them.
How bash you spot Congress’s relation successful this election?
Their lone role, arsenic I spot it, is to enactment the BJP. BJP’s Ramesh Bidhuri made a crass remark against a precise elder pistillate person of theirs. Their absorption was overmuch delayed and lukewarm astatine best. They are supporting the BJP.
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